Out & about Clip watch

Sometimes you see a concept in a watch that is a little different from the normal.  And even though this idea has been around for along time, this particular model strikes a chord with me I suppose as it has the small button compass, which is far easier to hold in your hand than on your wrist.

Dakota Clip Watch Model 37252

Dakota Clip Watch Model 37252

This is the Dakota Watch Men’s Green Angler 11 Ana-Digi Clip watch, which is quite a mouthful to say but actually quite a neat device.  The idea here is to “clip” this little item to your belt or pack or whatever is to hand when trekking or hill walking etc.

The watch itself is pretty decent and with a good set of features and a great “not on your wrist” size at 48 mm x 48 mm x 18 mm, which is just about ideal for what essentially is a hand held unit.  The speedy carabiner clip is a snap to use – easy off the waist band, hold in left hand horizontally (no twisting of the wrist) use the compass level bubble, take your heading and you’re away.  Probably every bit as good as any digital compass watch.
The movement is Japanese Quartz, no details and features Alarm, Date display, Digital display, Dual Time, and a three hand analog dial layout in black orange.  Mineral glass crystal and a Water Resistance of 30 m and the case in made from aluminum and stainless steel.

Note the hands are skeletal orange colored and the digital display is well defined in the background and overall looks pretty decent.  Four pushers and a Crown and I have to confess I rather like the overall layout as you can see a lot of information at a glance.
Analog Time plus seconds, the Day, Date and the Month plus the time digitally with am/pm indication and or Dual Time.  It also features a back light.

The small and separate liquid filled button compass is just below and affixed to the carabiner and there is also a key ring style ring at the side.

Knife and scissors carabiner style Dakota Watch

Knife and scissors carabiner style Dakota Watch

There are I understand around 5 other variants of this, one of which features a knife blade and scissors – see image inset, though the watch dial is not as good in my opinion and the clip is not the classic carabiner.

However this one is a good idea and a neat watch – I like it and the price even quoted here in the UK isn’t too bad at £56.00


You can even go digital with this offering from National Geographic – The Altitech 3 Clip Watch

AltiTech 3 Clip Watch and Travel Tool

Altitech 3 Clip Watch and Travel Tool

You can apparently get your bearings with this Digital Compass, which also has an Altimeter, Chronograph and Alarms (3) and it even gives you Sunrise and Sunset times – Wow!  Must be a backpacker thing – me – I’m too old for all that, but I like it anyway!

Bedside Alarm too

Bedside Alarm too

Things like an 80-log memory for total ascent and descent – does this make sense to you folks?

However I particularly like the way it can sit up and be used as a clock, that is really neat.  It’s around the same price as the Dakota and as I’ve discovered there are literally dozens of these “clip” watches around – it’s amazing and maybe shows how out of touch I am these days – Ah well . . . .

Anyway interesting items and there seems to be no shortage of them, some good and some not so good.  These two I quite like as they show a couple of different approaches tech wise in a small way and at the end of the day – you takes your pick!

Tom Tom GPS Golfer

Here’s a watch that is a very hand item especially if you play golf on a regular basis, maybe once or twice a week, twice a month even.

Tom Tom GPS Golfer Watch

Tom Tom GPS Golfer Watch

It’s an interesting concept as this is a model that once you switch it ON, you can’t switch it OFF.  Sounds a bit weird at first, but as the watch in it’s default display shows the Time, Date and Month (settable as USA or UK format) which is of course what a watch traditionally does and is able to do this for roughly 60 days before a charge is required, it makes for a sort of sense.  Especially if you are indeed a golfer, as after any round of golf you would put it on charge anyway, though it manages apparently around 10 hours playing time.

Slim Profile and note the unusual strap keeper

Slim Profile and note the unusual strap keeper

The watch is also a decent looking affair, flat to the wrist, very light at just 52 gms and has a very comfortable and flexible rubber buckle strap with an unusual but effective keeper.  Once on the wrist you don’t even know it’s there.

Tom Tom are relatively late into this golf GPS business, though they obviously checked out the “comments” and so on that the competition received before deciding what operational format to use. Whether it would have a touch screen or not was quickly decided as NOT, simply because of many issues with touch screens flagged up on other products.  Also the issue of buttons on the watch case.  Would they cause problems during the swing (during the wrist cock on the back swing, for all you golfers out there). So no case buttons at all.

Note the case curved extension - this is the charging connector.

Note the case curved extension – this is the charging connector.

Instead they mounted the controls, similar to a flat joystick controller as a curved extension to and below the case, with control part protruding through the strap.  Simply pushing with the finger the appropriate control edge, which vibrates as it actions, operates the selected function on the watch display.  A rather novel feature is that the entire watch and extension can be popped out of the case frame/strap, allowing it to be used in an optional cradle which you can attach to a golf trolley for example, for those who don’t want a wrist watch as such.  Very clever indeed!

I said this was not a touch screen and it’s not, but if you look closely there are 3 tiny dots on the right edge of the glass.  This is a small capacitive control, tap it and the back light comes on and after a few seconds goes off again- handy if that round of golf takes a little longer than you thought and the members have lined up their cars/headlamps for you on the last green.

I’ll not go into the golf course icons and course planning here, suffice to say, it should automatically find your course, then show each hole number, it’s par, distance to green center, back or front, indicate a straight or dogleg fairway, show which hole you are playing and progress to the next hole when finished.  You can also check other parameters such as layup distances and so on and then there’s a clock, phone Bluetooth, Time, Date, Month and Year adjustments etc.  You can also record your scores and upload these to an App on the phone if required.

Note the controls are on the lower side of the case - this is NOT a touch screen

Note the controls are on the lower side of the case – this is NOT a touch screen

The instruction booklet is very basic, though I guess once out on the course, it’s fairly intuitive and I note that if it doesn’t progress on to the next hole (sometimes happens owing to the last green and next tee position being too close, and which tee is used and so on), you simply push the UP controller and it goes to the next hole.

Flat "joystick" control located on the case extension.  The entire watch is also removable.

Flat “joystick” control located on the case extension. The entire watch is also removable.

However what I really like about it is that if you are a golfer, then this is basically the only watch you need, as it’s truly and basically a watch that’s always ready for golf.  So next time you’re going to golf you certainly won’t forget it, because you’re wearing it anyway!  And that’s very handy as let’s face it, you always forget something and you’ve just eliminated one of them, which must be an aid to your temper when on the first tee!

From a watch wearer point of view I like this model as it fits the wrist neatly and a little different from the usual ones I see around.

Cons –

However I do note that the built in Golf Course list is considerably shorter than Garmin or Golf Buddy, which has to be disappointing to many.  It’s also not clear whether Courses can be easily added to the database as the Tom Tom web site is hardly intuitive in this respect.  So perhaps some improvement yet is required to fully justify it’s rather high price of £199.00.  Surely a fundamental requirement has to be the inclusion of the fullest possible Golf Course database and anything less simply favors their competitors. (see Note 2 below)

Let’s hope improvements are in the pipeline – sooner rather than later.

Note 1 – Charging – The supplied Charge cable/unit comprises a specially shaped curved connector unit with integral USB connection plug lead, so for charging has to be connected either to a PC, Laptop or preferably to a USB 3 pin wall socket adapter.

Note 2 – Checking with Tom Tom it appears that courses can be added by request, as can correction of incorrect course data on their Tomtom/support/golfer web site, which sound very positive. Also there is a fully comprehensive set of instructions for the Golf Watch also on their web site available for download, in html or .pdf format, which makes up for their rather poor booklet that comes with the watch.
Note 3 – I’m going to check this watch myself soon on the Golf course and see what it can do for me – though my Wife says if I replaced my old Baffie, Niblic, Brassie and Iron Putter and that old leather pencil bag, it would be a start!

Getting smarter

With the prospect of the Huawei Android Watch coming soon, to my mind the Smart watch phenomenon is hotting up.  So much so that this is the very first model I’ve seen that makes even me slightly excited.

Huawei Smart watch with 40 different dials!

Huawei Smart watch with 40 different dials!

Not excessively excited you understand, but there is definitely a frisson of expectancy about this model and that’s a first time a “smart” watch has affected me at all.

It actually has a lot of potential in my opinion and for starters it is a sensible size – maybe that’s also a first – just 42 mm diameter x 11.3 mm depth – Now that IS a surprise!

Same watch - different clothes!

Same watch – different clothes!

It has a Sapphire crystal too and 40, yes 40 different optional virtual Watch dial layouts, which must suit just about anyone.  A superb AMOLED display means fabulous clarity and all within a Stainless Steel case in Gold or Silver or Black finishes.  A stainless steel mesh strap or leather strap choice.  Plus it’s got sensors such as Gyroscope, Accelerometer, Barometer, Vibration alert and even a Microphone.

It looks pretty Smart to me.

It looks pretty Smart to me. In fact it looks VERY good.

It has the Smart functions that all you aspiring “get fit” folks out there must have, such as Daily Health function, Single activity tracking, Heart Rate tracking, hookup to your phone for Instant Messaging and Call notifications and all that stuff, that’s basically beyond your average 70+ year old (I wonder who he’s talking about!).  So this is just what you want isn’t it?

Smart functions via Bluetooth - messaging, Texts etc.

Smart functions via Bluetooth – messaging, Texts etc.

But importantly for me (of a certain age) this seems to be, virtually at least, a watch first with good traditional design, sensible size plus a one button functionality, so no silly complications and with all these different optional watch faces, I could wear a different one every day of the week.  Just what a smart collector needs to reduce the collection!

And above all it looks like a watch, feels like a watch, acts like a watch and can do as much or as little “Smarts” as you want and if you want to know boring things like the Day of the Week, the Date and the Time, then this might just be for you.  The Smarter stuff you can gently ease yourself into, or maybe not in my case – but at least I’ll be right up there.

Goodness I might end up fashionable, trendy, technically savvy and SMART too.     Wow!

NoteUnsure as to battery life other than to say it 300mAh which I’m told is good and lasts probably longer than others.  And it comes with Charging Cradle, PC connections etc etc.  Price wise? Not announced just yet, but I’d be surprised if it wasn’t $300 range?  But that’s just a guess (hope) maybe, but it’s looking good. . . . . .

Way to go . . .

Ashampoo_Snap_2015.04.20_11h54m32s_009_Been looking at the latest World Timer range of watches from affordable to the less so and after embroiling myself in what they can do and how tricky or easy it is to do what they do, I realized that maybe I don’t need ‘em at all!
Now this is possibly a surprising admission for me, as I am and always have been a frequent and inveterate traveller.
OK some are easier to use than others and I already have one that is super simple and absolutely meets my requirements (my Citizen Eco-Drive A-T CB0020-09E and pictured at the end) so I don’t need another one – and some of the newer offerings I would advise you to carry an instruction booklet with you at all times – and that’s no good at all.Ashampoo_Snap_2015.04.20_11h51m18s_006_

So that now understood, I will not be buying any World Timer watches in the foreseeable future – no I won’t.

In most cases I’m happy with a digital traveller watch that has perhaps a couple of local times built in (who needs more?) and these might be programmed as T2 and T3 for example (such as the Timex) and  set with a simple -“mode, select” – job done!
I don’t think I need to know the time in 40 zones, as frequent flyer that I am, I have never in one trip managed that sort of route – well not unless I’ve mixed up my meds  anyway!Ashampoo_Snap_2015.04.20_11h53m07s_008_

In fact this leads on I suppose to the question of just how many complications do we need in a watch on the wrist?  The more you have the more you have to remember – which pushers to push or crown to turn, which sequence, how, what and so on and why is this watch so darned big – and where’s the damned booklet?
And during this mental anguish sitting on the plane, your wife has quietly clicked out her watch crown and in 4 seconds has moved Mickey’s arms with the big white gloved hands on them an hour forward  to Destination time on her dinky one jewel Disney.  I mean it’s downright embarrassing!Ashampoo_Snap_2015.04.20_11h52m09s_007_

I’ll not go into other complications other than to say that I did use my Chronometer the other day while boiling my breakfast eggs – 4 minutes.   It was still going the following day as I’d completely forgotten about it.  And as to the eggs?   Well I happened to glance at the old kitchen clock when I was cooking them and thought that’s about right and that was it.  I’d totally forgotten about the watch or even that I’d set it in the first place!
OK so part of that example was maybe old age or brain cells winking out, but really – what relevance does a chronometer model have for me these days?

Not a lot.

Easiest travel watch with world times included. Pull crown, turn - done!

Easiest travel watch with world times included. Pull crown, turn – done!  As simple as it gets!

There are other features too, of course there are (there are so many today) but suffice to say my tolerance for such functions appears to have affected my watch collection.  It’s becoming simpler and I’m slowly finding I have more watch models that are easy to read the Time and tend to have a clear Day and a Date window – so nice and simple and I suppose more or less what I would consider IN the present, as indeed I try to be.  In other words, take each day as it comes, one at a time.

What Time is it?  It’s 2.45 in the afternoon, it’s Monday and it’s the 20th and looking out the window, it’s sunny!

Way to go . . . . .

Note – My two favorite travel watches can be seen HERE

All change

These days I seem to have more straps, bracelets (bands) and deployment fittings than watch models, possibly fueled by this notion I have to every so often “change” the look of my collection. Despite what the original strap or bracelet looked like, I find it fun to change them every so often.

Retro divers infinity adjustment  solid mesh with locking clasp

Retro divers infinity adjustment solid mesh with locking clasp (on a dress watch?) – it looks good.

Inclusive twin pushbutton release silicon/steel fold over deployment with lock

Inclusive twin pushbutton release silicon/steel fold over deployment with lock

In fact it’s true to say that sometimes after a change from an original strap to one of your own choosing with perhaps different metal or color or style, whatever, you realize that for you the original was never a good idea in the first place.  How the designer came up with it to start with is sometimes a mystery!

Twin push button butterfly deployment to strap fixing

Twin push button butterfly deployment to strap fixing – steel or gold – could be either.

Single flip over deployment to strap fititing

Single flip over deployment to strap fitting

Now whilst I do manage to change many of the watch strap/case combinations from time to time, I always retain the original just in case I get fed up with the watch, or maybe never wear it and sell it on to someone else.

Inclusive twin pushbutton silicon steel deployment to Swatch fitting with lock

Inclusive twin pushbutton silicon steel deployment to Swatch fitting with lock

So there are a few I’ve changed recently and no I’ll not show the originals – but they actually look pretty good to me in their new garb.  Until I decide one day to change them again, maybe to the originals or maybe a new color or whatever.  And that’s the fun with an eclectic collection, like a little boy you can play with them to your hearts content!

Upright from Lanco

Last Post showed my Bulova Golden Clipper and this time features my latest Lanco 1970 vertical Day-Date model from the Langendorf Watch Co. of Switzerland.

Lanco vertical read Day/Date with quick set calendar

Lanco – Swiss vertical read Day/Date with quick set calendar

Note the cherry red dial background with white/chrome batons and a clear and contrasting Day/Date window indication @6, chromed hour and minute hands with a center sweep seconds hand. There are luminous dot markers and infill to the main hands, but no longer active today.  The surprisingly large and heavy solid Stainless Steel case is not perhaps the finest machining you’ll see, but the top surface is satin finished and the curved case sides are at least chamfered (the lower edges towards the integral solid steel bracelet are sharp edged).

Large 107gms Stainless Steel case with integral bracelet.  Lanco New old Stock

Large 107gms Stainless Steel case with integral bracelet. Lanco New old Stock

As said this case is large for the period at 42 mm x 36 mm x 12 mm and with the original integral stainless bracelet, which because of it’s fitting stands out a little proud from the case means the top to bottom dimension is more around 52 mm, so for the smaller wrist please note.

Marked Anton Schild (AS) 2066 automatic with 46 hrs power reserve.

Marked Anton Schild (AS) 2066 automatic with 46 hrs power reserve.

Complete with the excellent and clearly marked AS 2066 (Anton Schild) 25 jewel mechanical Automatic movement which features a Crown quick set calendar for both Day and Date and a 46 hr power reserve, so no slouch in the quality stakes.

Wears quite big on the wrist, this Lanco, but looks great!

Wears quite big on the wrist, this Lanco, but looks great!

I also note the bracelet comes with a removable 20 mm extension to the deployment feature, of a style I’ve not seen before and simply fitted with a small spring bar.

So two vertical Day/Date features 1970’s brands and yet so different as models.  The Bulova from my last Post is a more refined watch overall with rounded elegant case fitting in comparison, though both look great on the wrist and of course both are starring in my new “odd features” box with the unusual vertical read Day and Date feature window @6, a style that can also be found in limited numbers from Rado, Hamilton, Enicar, Jules Jurgenson and even West End Watch Co.

As styles go this is a relatively rare find these days, especially in such good condition.  With different Brands it’s also fascinating to see which movements are used, especially with the use of vertical set Day/Date wheels.  Quite a number used quality AS movements and a nice compliment to what were often radically different 1970’s watch designs, and such a step change from the more traditional styles of the 1950/60’s.

In the case of this particular Lanco Brand, the Langendorf Company who started in 1880 and known at one time as the largest clock manufactury in the world, progressing, if that’s the right word to the abbreviated Lanco company name from 1960, which in 1970/1 merged with the Omega/Tissot Group as a quality equal, though that said watch production under the Lanco brand finally ended just a few years later in 1973.   So as an example of a Brand that won’t see the light of day again, perhaps ghosting through Omega/Tissot models today, may be one thing, but to have a Langendorf original does give me a little thrill.

The collecting game – could this be a new phase?

Isn’t it funny how your collection ideas can alter over the years.  There was that time when you thought that Swatch was the thing, then all the variants of Timex or Casio then the true vintage models of 1920 – 1949, then the rectangular models, Day and Date models, Radio Controlled ones and so on and on . . . basically morphing as it goes along.

And in my own case my stuff has always been a bit eclectic (even eccentric, some would say) and I tend to buy and collect mostly what I like, with little regard whether a “collectors” item or not – I basically don’t care about that aspect of watch collecting.  Though I have to say that as my “proper” vintage watches go I have to admit over recent years refining these to more “collectible” ones, that I like, that is . . .

Needless to say this has begun to match other collectors ideas of what collectibles are all about, though I hasten to add, quite a few of the so called favorites are not represented (Rolex for example) – simply as I don’t like them very much, so why would I buy one.   Odd that may be, but does show I’ve not completely joined the ranks of convention – well not quite yet.

However, recently I’ve shifted towards more retro and in particular the wonderful 1970’s period.   In this new collection my preference is for automatic mechanical models and often models that have a theme, such as dial shape or odd features.  You have to remember that the 1970s was a pretty amazing time and one that I lived through – and I mean lived . .  . so has a personal and evocative nostalgia.

I suppose much of my love of the 70’s kick started just a few months before – in Bethel, New York on the 15th to the 18th August 1969 when I was long haired (oldish) hippy style with harmonica and guitar – and gone in the cloud (yes we had them in those days) with that fantastic experience – Woodstock!  If you don’t know what that was, then look it up.  But you had to be there – oh yeah – man . . .

So in that crazy free and forward looking time, when lots of serious grown up problems were on us  – not that we understood them anyway, because we had a Microwave! and crazy piled up hair (and this is the men) Peace man and Ban the Bomb, the end of the Vietnam War and the discovery of “Black holes” and the new wave riot of color – everywhere, and Discos and bean bags, space hoppers, and all in the face of rampant 30% inflation, Star Wars and even the Hostess trolley (came with that Microwave!) and all that – what also appeared was a wave of new style avant-garde watches, where the Swiss plus some others burst on to the scene with wonderful new designs and shapes in amazing styles – indeed creations of form that vibrantly portrayed the people freedom of the 1970’s perfectly.
Squares, triangles, ovals, geometrics and goodness knows what, automatics, manual winds, Tuning Forks movements, new “jump” ideas and fantastic dial configurations, shapes, colors and so on – as I say a fascinating period.

So it’s this era that’s got me not only interested (the phrase “light my fire” comes to mind) but actually excited once again and the great thing about 1968 – 1979 is that these great gone for ever models are still affordable.  In twenty years these could be the true vintage models and my present vintage collection will be antique, or certainly more specialist perhaps and maybe, just maybe, dare I say – rather dull . . . .

So this year it looks like I’m into the 70’s and already off to a flying start, such is the excitement of my collecting once again.  In fact quite a few of my eclectic “modern” and vintage models might have to go to make room for my new ideas collection.

The upright Golden Clipper

When collecting watches it’s often the case that one particular brand is not too well represented and sometimes just for the fact that you never got round to it.  And in the case of Bulova that’s probably right in my case, though that said I did have a Bulova Accutron 218 many years ago which I sold on at the time as payment for another model.

Great wrist fit - 37.5 mm x 39 mm lug to lug plus original Kreisler Stelux bracelet

Great wrist fit – 37.5 mm x 39 mm lug to lug plus original Stainless Kreisler Stelux bracelet

However recently I bought an earlier Bulova from 1970 and for no other reason than I particularly liked the rather unusual case and dial layout.  Note the luminous infill hour and minute hands, the red seconds sweep hand and the luminous dot markers at each applied minute marker, gives a clearly defined dial (note the luminous material no longer active).  I particularly like the different background shades for the Day and the Date wheels, which aids clarity.  And of course how could you miss the vertical Day and Date @6 which sets it apart from most watches and if honest the main reason for my purchase.  The case is in polished Stainless Steel and oval in shape and whilst I’ve heard it called the UFO case, though maybe a personal observation by an owner and certainly not official, it is in fact quite a rare shape for a Gents model and a very decent size at approximately 37.5 mm wide and 39 mm lug to lug, and as a result it sits well on the wrist.
It also has the Bulova Automatic Swiss 17 jewel movement so is well specified, though from the dial you wouldn’t know it was automatic, as it’s not printed on the dial, the only dial text being the “T -SWISS-T” mark and the large text Bulova name @12.  For me however it’s just the combination of all of these factors that I find uniquely interesting.

Golden Clipper model 11616 - 1970 Automatic

Golden Clipper model 11616 – 1970 “J” model Automatic in original box

Bulova produced a large number of watches over the years and amazingly eclectic variations were available in the 1970’s but actually only a few models that featurde a vertical Day and Date display.  Other were a 1972 Caravelle AK model and a 1973 Jet Star model 11634 with squared case and I’m delighted to say that my watch can be confirmed as the Golden Clipper model 11616 from 1970 (and the most expensive of the 4) and I attach an image from the 1970 McLeans Magazine advert running the Golden Clipper series and with the Stainless Steel 11616 model shown on the right.  I note the advert text is sometimes difficult to read and has I think been misread in the MyBulova.com web site, but this clearer image shows it’s definitely 11616.  The 2nd marketing image is a newspaper clipping, which also shows this model as part of another Golden Clipper advert.

However it’s always nice to have your watch model validated and with Bulova it’s actually easier being a USA Brand when compared to most Swiss made watches, as the (USA) records are usually much better.  But for the most comprehensive data I’ve seen, a visit to the mybulova.com web site and forum is very worth while being a mecca for Bulova owners, as it’s a terrific source of information.

As to my new acquisition, I’m particularly pleased as it included the original Bulova watch box which is in very good condition.  The watch itself was sold and described as 8/10 condition, though personally I might up that grading myself.  Especially after checking out the movement which is in about as good a condition I’ve seen.  Note the large italic B for Bulova cut out on the rotor which is a nice validation.

Bulova Automatic 11ANACB with the B signed rotor in pristine condition.

Bulova Automatic 11ANACB with the B signed rotor in pristine condition.

The movement is the 17 jewel 11ANACB automatic.  Exterior wise after some careful and superficial cleaning with a small brush and cloth (no solvents used) the watch looks virtually as new.   The stainless steel Kreisler Stelux bracelet signed Bulova is the original and in excellent condition and easily fit my wrist (the bracelet will fit up to approx 190 mm).  For what is a relatively rare 45 years old vertical Day and Date @6 display Bulova Golden Clipper, the condition is pretty exceptional and has to be one of my best buys for a considerable time and I’m delighted.

An interesting fact about the 1970 Golden Clipper series is that Bulova ran a promotional campaign, where they commissioned Wilkinson Sword Company of London to produce a limited run of 100 presentation swords, one of which would be offered each of the first 100 customers buying this model.  With an etched blade inscribed-  “Bulova Golden Clipper – Presentation Award 1970” on one side and the Wilkinson Sword mark on the other.  A promotional gift they may be, but they are full size, beautifully made and uniquely Wilkinson and actually pretty rare today!

In fact I could get one, but here in the UK importing such a sword might cause all sorts of problems, what with our Draconian blade laws.  So whilst it would be nice to have the completeness of the collection (perhaps all 4 watch models plus the sword), I can probably do without the hassle.

Condition wise this watch is really very good considering it’s age and it’s managed to pick up only two small dings (one on the case back and the other on the lower front of the case), but these are hardly noticeable, which is why I would grade it as good as I do.

Setting the Day and Date on some of these old Bulova models can be tricky and time consuming, as there is no “quick set” Date here.  Basically it’s by means of hands movement, backwards and forwards, then over the am/pm, back and forth etc. to get the Day, Date and Time as you would like.  But that’s the way it is and I’m OK with that.  On the plus side however, once set, the watch keeps excellent time and runs as smooth as silk.

Note the model number is 11616 as shown in this 1970 advertisement.

Note the model number is 11616 as shown in this 1970 MacLeans Magazine (ref)

Another 1970's advertisement from a newspaper of the period.

Another 1970’s advertisement from a newspaper of the period.

Note – The price of this watch today, if using the selling price in 1970 as a guide, would be somewhere in the region of $700 – accounting for inflation of course (around 500%).

So good value today, though I hasten to add I didn’t pay that!

So that’s my latest vintage purchase and it’s noticeable that I’m tending to buy models that are not as old as I usually get.  It might be that although there are plenty old ones still around, it’s definitely becoming much more expensive, especially if you are looking for good condition models.

There are many, many models around which are frankly, in poor condition and in Auction Sales for example, the Seller seems to expect the same prices I used to pay for good condition models.  Part of the reason of course is that Sellers have to pay sellers fees, so in their eyes losing their item’s value to them – so they expect more to compensate.  However being a Buyer I’m also being hit considerably harder with what I now consider excessive Buyers fees, plus Vat and so on and I end up with an item which costs sometimes far more that its true value and that’s not really acceptable either.
In the case of really good condition vintage models of the 1920-1945, the prices now can be really high and I’m not too sure if I’m happy paying those prices, though there’s always the exception.

However in the case of the Bulova Golden Clipper here, I got this via Ebay from a bona fide Watchmaker/Dealer and in the end I was happy with my purchase as was the Seller.  Now that’s surely a better deal all round.

Sky Hawk – upgrade?

Not so long ago I invested in a replacement for my old Navitimer (which I sold on in a fit of insanity!) with a Sky Hawk JYooo5-50E, and I have to say I’m really pleased with it.  But as these things do, the latest incarnation (Japanese Domestic market) is the new Citizen Promaster PMV65-2272

Is it me?  Or have the internal bezels ruined that Classic look?

Is it me? Or have the internal bezels ruined that Classic look?

and for me at least the jury is out as to whether this is an improvement or not.

This is the latest one and you can spot the difference immediately.  The outer slide-rule bezel has disappeared to materialize inside the watch and adjusted by the use of a turn screw crown on the outside of the case.  The case is black colored Titanium, which I do like, but the rest of the dial set up is more or less the same as it’s always been – and for that I am truly happy – why change a design classic?
The functions are more or less the same I understand, Chronograph, Radio Control, Eco-Drive etc etc.  The lighting is as was, so is about as good as it gets and that appears to be it.

Slide rule inside not outside.  So it looks slightly different and funnily enough I’m the kind of guy that’s never been overly fond of multi-data bezels, so I should like it.

Skyhawk JY0005-50E - Looks sleek and Classic!

Skyhawk JY0005-50E – Looks sleek and Classic!

But NOT SO – as in the case of the older Citizen Navitimer and Sky Hawk models – these bezels have always just been SO good and so much part of the design concept – I love them.

So unfortunately the outside to inside bezel change just doesn’t do it for me – and is it me or has the new version suddenly become a little lumpier exterior wise?  And not nearly as sleek with that extra (and large) crown on the left side and the existing ones looking larger and more aggressive?

Now OK I accept that the Slide-rule element bezels are now closer together so should work better together as a slide-rule and that’s as may be – BUT –

Conclusion – Can’t see any reason for this so called upgrade, as my older model is still available and at a much cheaper price and looks better in my opinion.

What can I say?